Maybe it's different when you read the manga, but as soon as i read those respective chapters when they first came out. it made perfect sense to me and i was shocked. i was like holy crap it's finally confirmed it's his dad! wtf tobi isn't just some loser?! i got that pretty quick and I was like 19 at the time. I am now 30 years old. i don't consider that a spoiler.
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